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Re: Supplement reviews

Postby thelocal » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:07 pm

Virgil Flowers wrote:As for Test Boosters....

Anytime you take something to boost your testosterone levels...your body will make up for the excess test levels by boosting estrogen...ie...guys on steroids get gynocomastia(bitch tits) and have to take a cycle of other drugs to reduce estrogen levels...

All current studies of legally available test boosters show they're pretty much a rip off. I wouldn't waste my money...but that's me...



test booster are not a rip off IF you get the right one..one can take letro,or adex to battle gyno,also remember when you take test boosters you risk of shutting down your own natty test production ,so recovery is one thing to keep in mind..estrogen can be kept at bay..some people are more sensitive to gyno then others it is person dependent
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Re: Supplement reviews

Postby thelocal » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:09 pm

Fame wrote:well...I have to agree with Virgil now after taking them, the TB's are a waste... it's funny because I never saw your reply till just now.

I'm actually on week 3 of testosterone propionate now (synthetic tesosterone/steroid), and have my cycle of "other drugs" (Nolvadex and Clomid [anti-estrogen]) waiting when I finish my 10 week cycle.

As far as non steroidal supps go. Doing pretty good with the pre-workout Animal Rage. I take the multi-vitamin animal pak. For protien, it's just whatever. I never really realized how much dieting goes into this stuff. I was packing on weight but not muscle, switched up my diet and now I eat a lot cleaner.



dude FUCK clomid,it is not an anti E drug,it helps boost your natty test when your in pct..but fuck clomid all day,..takking what .300-500mgs a weed?eod injections? and fuck nolva to,all old school man,your in the new age brother
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Re: Supplement reviews

Postby Fame » Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:52 pm

Clomid, stimulates other hormones to release testosterone back into your body.

"It is a SERM (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator) which acts by actually binding to the estrogen receptor and thereby BLOCKING ESTROGEN."

I may be in the new age, but if it ain't broken, don't fix it. I'm taking the same shit that a lot, and I mean A LOT, of my body building friends are taking, and they look great.

P.S. the Testosterone is injection, the clomid and nolvadex are oral.

Also if you're going to state that test boosters aren't a waste, you should probably name the ones that aren't a waste.

I don't take supplement advice from anyone who doesn't physically look like they know what they're talking about, and since I haven't seen you, how do you expect I should react to your statements about what I'm using, when I know for a fact that my friends, who have been body building for a long time and are in competition form, are using exactly what I'm using?
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Re: Supplement reviews

Postby Bandit » Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:57 pm

Any suggestions for a morning meal replacement/energy booster?? Trying to lose weight, not put it on and I have a bad habit of skipping breakfast, which I know I shouldn't, so I'm looking for a drink that I can make that is VERY quick and simple.

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Re: Supplement reviews

Postby Fame » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:18 pm

The best question to ask is what your diet is like in the first place and what supplements are you taking now.

I'm actually losing fat and building lean muscle right now, I eat 1 cup of Oatmeal and 8 egg whites in the morning, than I head to the gym and work out. Oatmeal is really quick and simple and cost effective, and eggs will give you protien that you need. MOST, but not all, meal replacements supps are heavy in calories, not ideal for weight loss. All that engery stuff in an energy drink is in a lot of pre-workouts without the sugar and crap.
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Re: Supplement reviews

Postby FRO » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:44 pm

i make an oatmeal smoothie for breakfast. Heat up a half cup of oats. Then put in a cup of strawberry protien, blend and enjoy. Quick healthy and yummy. On mornings Im really hungry, either 2 pieces of fruit or can fruit that was packed in water.
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Re: Supplement reviews

Postby Fame » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:53 pm

Sounds really good. I hate my diet, and I got 5 months left of it.
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Re: Supplement reviews

Postby FRO » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:07 pm

I don't have a diet per say. Just eat more often and in snack size servings with healthy foods. Only time I stray from it are the during the two week period of finals. SInce I'm usually at school working on multitude of stuff all at once.
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Re: Supplement reviews

Postby thelocal » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:59 am

First everyone on the forums think they know it all,and everyone has a bodybuilder friend right?..lol everyone online is 5'8-6'2 220-260 sub 10% right?lol get the fuck out of here

Clmoid was never intended to block estrogen,it only "acts"..You need an Anti-Aromatase

Clomid's mechanisms are: competitively inhibits estrogen receptors at Hypothalamus, blunts negative feedback of endogenous Estrogen at the pituitary gland as being a synthetic Estrogen when it attaches to the Estrogen receptors, gives a negative feedback to the Hypothalamus and pituitary gland as general that there is enough Estrogen around and there is no needing for more production as with all negative feedbacks mechanism, allows for unabated GnRH secretion, Increases pituitary sensitivity to GnRH which leads to Enhanced Luteinizing hormone (LH) release and Enhanced Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH) release

therefor Clomid works as an Anti-Estrogen and for restoring natural Testosterone production

but it would be wrong to assume that Clomid works as an Anti-Estrogen which prevents Gyno during the cycle because Clomid do not block Estrogen receptors at breat tissues just on some specific areas as hypothalamus and pituitary gland (and the cervix in women) therefor it will be useless, it just works well after cycles for keeping natural released Estrogen level down by preventing more natural Estrogen to be produces

Clomid is actually a mixture of enclomiphene and zuclomiphene. Zuclomiphene is an active estrogen in virtually all tissues, which is why it has such a negative effect on the emotions and makes you feel like a women. Its also why you need twice as much clomid as nolvadex for most uses. (because your antagonizing and agonizing estrogen receptors with clomid)

Bulbine Natalensis is a natty herbal product that is scientifically PROVEN to boost test by up to 347%(do some research look it up)

most supplements are worthless I agree,..only legal "boosts" I would worry about getting are these..(protein shakes,creatine,b12 injections,nitric oxide) IMO thats all you really need

Remember to lose weigh dont starve yourself,yes you need to lower calories under matinece and you have to understand how the "law of thermogenics". work in order to burn weight,but you also have to do ALOT of eating clean foods to get that body you dreamed of!
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Re: Supplement reviews

Postby thelocal » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:05 am

Fame wrote:Clomid, stimulates other hormones to release testosterone back into your body.

"It is a SERM (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator) which acts by actually binding to the estrogen receptor and thereby BLOCKING ESTROGEN."

I may be in the new age, but if it ain't broken, don't fix it. I'm taking the same shit that a lot, and I mean A LOT, of my body building friends are taking, and they look great.

P.S. the Testosterone is injection, the clomid and nolvadex are oral.

Also if you're going to state that test boosters aren't a waste, you should probably name the ones that aren't a waste.

I don't take supplement advice from anyone who doesn't physically look like they know what they're talking about, and since I haven't seen you, how do you expect I should react to your statements about what I'm using, when I know for a fact that my friends, who have been body building for a long time and are in competition form, are using exactly what I'm using?



Hopefully your smart enough to know that you wont look like your friends,even if you cycle the same exact cycle they took,and have the same exact diet they have,everyone body has a diff build..and secondly hopefully your dick doesn't shut down on you mid cycle and you understand you will prolly lose 20% of your gains post cycle with a weak pct

P.S dude that was an arrogant move to think I didn't know test was an injection and nolva/clomid was oral..lol look kid,the shit I forgot about juice you don't even know yet

step it up,jump on a test/tren/winny/eq stack,man up
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